Mar 06 2023

Mystery Friday Foto # 9 Solved: The #2 De Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race


Did you identify this Mystery Foto?

Answers to the Mystery Foto questions:

  • The race car, driver and mechanician

#2 De Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray with mechanician Frankville.

  • The race 

1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race (may be a practice run)

  • Location and orientation of the photographer. Provide a rationale.

Frank Femenias: Photographer is standing on the east side of today’s Lakeville Rd looking NNW besides the wrought iron fence surrounding Willie K’s Deepdale Estate in Lake Success (approx 560 acres). The racer just turned left from I.U. Willets Rd and heading south on Hyde Park Rd (Lakeville Rd) .

  • Outcome for this racer

Finished 9th, averaging 55 mph.

Comments (4)

Congrats to Frank Femenias, David Miller, and Steve Lucas for identifying Duray's De Dietrich.

Kudos to Joseph Oesterle and Frank Femenias for recognizing the Lakeville Road location in front of Willie K's Deepdale estate.

 

Greg O. and Howard Kroplick


Close-Up


#2 De Dietrich during 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Start line in Mineola

Bull's Head Inn, Greenvale

Lakeville Road Turn on to Jericho Turnpike

Jericho Turnpike in Mineola


Arthur Duray


Comments

Mar 03 2023 frank femenias 8:38 PM

This could be the French De Dietrich #2 130hp racer driven by Arthur Duray with mechanician Frankville by his side during the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race on 14Oct1905. Photographer is standing on the east side of today’s Lakeville Rd looking NNW besides the wrought iron fence surrounding Willie K’s Deepdale Estate (approx 560 acres). The racer just turned left from I.U. Willets Rd and heading south on Hyde Park Rd (Lakeville Rd) The De Dietrich finished in 9th place averaging 55mph throughout the race.

Mar 04 2023 Joseph Oesterle 10:50 AM

I am only going to take a guess on the location. 
Current Lakeville Road heading south.  Willie K’s estate is to the left. 
1906 VCR.

Mar 04 2023 David Miller 1:58 PM

The car is a 1905 De Dietrich (France).  The driver is Arthur Duray, with mechanician Frankville.  They are competing in the 1905 VCR.  They finished 9th in the 8th lap when the race was called.  I’m still researching the location of this picture but so far my best guess is that this is Glen Cove rd with the photographer facing north.  The slightly inclined shoulder on the left between the road and the fence seem to be consistent with some parts of Glen Cove rd.

Mar 05 2023 Steve Lucas 4:08 PM

I think that might be the DeDietrich driven by Arthur Duray with Frankville as the mechanician in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race. They finished 9th. in that race. Based on the shadows of the trees, it looks like the car is heading west with the photographer facing northeast. The location could be along North Hempstead Turnpike between Glen Cove Road and the East Norwich turn at Oyster Bay Road.

Leave a Comment