Dec 04 2023

Mystery Foto #48 Solved: #42 Isotta driven by Herb Lytle at Deadman’s Curve #2 in Central Park (Bethpage)


Did you identify this racer on a curve?

Identify;

  • The Race Car and Race

#42 Isotta in the Motor Parkway Sweepstakes held on the opening day of the Motor Parkway on October 10, 1908.

  • Driver and how many Vanderbilt Cup Races this driver drove in

Herb Lytle who drove in six Vanderbilt Cup Race-related races

  • Location and orientation of the photographer

Deadman's Curve #2 in Central Park (Bethpage). The photographer is looking southwest.

  • Motor Parkway structures

Central Park Avenue/LIRR Bridge in the background

Comments (4)

Congrats to David Miller and Steve Lucas for identifying Lytle's Isotta.

Kudos to David Miller, Art Kleiner, Steve Lucas, John Cunningham and Frank Femenias for identifying the Bethpage location.

Greg O.  & Howard Kroplick



Comments

Dec 02 2023 David Miller 1:34 PM

Took me a while to figure this one out but I eventually determined that this location is just before the racers got to the second dead man’s curve.  The photographer is facing south and in the distance is the overpass that carried the Motor Parkway over the Long Island Railroad / Central ave crossing in Central Park (Bethpage).  This was the Motor Parkway Sweepstakes held on October 10th, 1908.  The driver is Herb Lytle driving the Isotta.  He finished first in this race.  He drove in a total of 6 Vanderbilt related races.  More than any other driver.

Dec 03 2023 Art Kleiner 7:35 AM

Mercer in the 1910 Wheatley Hills sweepstakes.  Car was owned by H.M. Ozier.
Driver is Edwin H. Sherwood who never appeared in an actual Vanderbilt Cup Race.
The second Deadman’s Curve looking northeast towards the Central Avenue Highway Bridge in the background,.

Dec 03 2023 Steve Lucas 2:45 PM

That looks like the #P42 Isotta being driven by Herb Lytle during the 1908 Motor Parkway Sweepstakes. Along with that race, Lytle also participated in 5 other Vanderbilt race events including the 1904, 1905 and 1908 Cup Races and the 1905 and 1906 American Elimination Trials. The photographer is facing south or maybe slightly southwest about 100 yards north of the Central Avenue / LIRR parkway bridge in Central Park (Bethpage). The other structure is the building behind the race fans which I believe was used for storing supplies / equipment during the LIMP construction.

Dec 04 2023 Art Kleiner 7:35 AM

Brooklyn Daily Eagle September 30, 1910

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Dec 04 2023 John Cunningham 5:28 PM

headed east/northeast coming over the central ave lirr bridge in central park photo was taken near present day norcross ave in bethpage

Dec 04 2023 John Cunningham 5:30 PM

driver is headed north.  photographer facing south

Dec 04 2023 frank femenias 7:45 PM

I’m late! Racer is heading north after crossing Motor Parkway’s longest bridge (Central Ave/LIRR parkway bridge) headed towards Dead Man’s curve *2 under the Nibbes’ farmway bridge. This exact location is in between today’s Seaford Oyster Bay Expwy Rt 135 and Norcross Ave

Dec 04 2023 frank femenias 8:04 PM

Mystery photo location

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